If you have capital to build a business then do so help the economy and build something of your own. Trump has lost more money than most of us will ever see. I think in Merchants of Deception, or maybe just by general knowledge, those tapes cost 50 cents to produce so there's lot of money to be made by selling them for $5+ to ambots. They are in negative numbers that month. Those two couples are now in Amway/Quixtar terms "Emeralds and Diamonds". Deduct business expenses say 50 k. Or more. They have an income"No they don't. You're going to earn the $84, you're not going to retire in 2-5 years. MLM I general is a malignant metastatic cancer on peoples' lives. "Just like yourself I got started about a decade ago and I graduated top of my class and got multiple job offers. They recognize winning card percentages, cost to play, table volatility, sunk loss, emotions, tendencies of other players, and play their cards accordingly, separating themselves from pride and ego. More fucked in the head than what Amway does to them. In the late 1980s I frequently attended Amway rallies to help out a friend (bringing potential recruits to these rallies made my friend look good to his upstream). You cannot just dismiss the thousands of people who voice their grief with this business. Then they get punished and told never question upline. I hissed at her because I belonged to Greenpeace (got my membership in 3rd grade) and the thought of the whole fur coat thing grossed me out, let alone, all these pathetic women clamoring to touch them. I have to admit, I LOVE THIS. I'm confused if your ex-lover and your ex-husband are the same person and how a lying cheating scamming Amway Diamond fits into the equation. It always amazed me how in the world can these so called "Diamonds" or "Emeralds" have so much money, yet need to have another job at least? Unless they're fucked in the head like I previously covered.I get some low level IBO's showing up here bragging about how much money they make but everyone in Amway is a liar so that's nothing new.Wow you got so far in 3 years! It looks like you're still brainwashed after all these years of being out. But they like to show up here and show their outrage that people are getting the truth out there of the financial and emotional distress Amway brings to their lives. You could lease it, rent it, borrow it, or whatever. Lies, double-speak, "fake it til you make it", tricks and bullshit to reel someone in and get them plugged into the "motivational" (brainwashing) system to make them "dream" instead of THINK and do the math. Not hard to figure out at all why Amway diamonds are broke. WHich was funny cause at the meetings they'd tell us we weren't recruiting enough people, but we had meetings like 3 days a week including all day saturday, and some sundays so I'm not completely sure when we were supposed to actually recruit. His house, to make an understatement, was huge. We were told in the mid eighties they earned $100,000. They do sell a lot of seminars and CDs though! No one is guaranteed 6 figure income just because they join. Come back after year 3, and 4, and 5, and let's see that fighting spirit. While many people have come to know jesus Christ through their association with Amway, the elites are another kettle of fish. That's from the old days. Considering benefits like healthcare and retirement, the total compensation package likely approaches $200k. Of the nine initial team members, four are considered "alien types" such as beasts and androids. We are a training system on how to build the amway business to a truly significant level. I don't know what made you guys so bitter, But it really seems like you have no idea what you're talking about. We always knew it had to do with everyone in the upline getting a piece of greed pie after the lowly Ambot at the bottom of the pyramid did a lot of work to make a sale. They were going to continue, and if Amway didn't like it Amway could fuck off. Let me ask 1400 out of how many??? We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.10. Sounds like a stronger selling point.Or is it less? Be humble, open minded , and loving and God will open doors! The scam comes in due to the lies ambots tell about the compensation and how they hide how much money you really have to spend each month in Amway, a lot of it on the tool scam. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I open mindly listened and quickly got bored. So ones diamondships volume is part of another diamondships volume), i would like to know how is it possible. At least if people are watching TV they aren't losing money to Amway. I fail to see how financial and emotional distress is awesome but then I don't meet this ambot's high standards. Tell us which McD's and we'll be sure to come over and say hi. There are over 1000. Amway's are like chocolate coated cardboard. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.7. But really? You have to buy 100PV in products every month (call it around $300). Thats over 99% failure rate according to Amway what kind of business opportunity is that. You kind find better stuff free at the library or online. I feel your pain and sorry you went through all this while your parents devoted their lives to Amway the cult of greed. I'm sure they've been texting you frequently since you said good bye with all kinds of Amway slogans about how they're fired up after meeting you and they can tell you're a sharp guy and you're going to go really big in this business, etc. Maybe you have a decent downline that hasn't seen the light either. When our sack of shit Platinum talked his downline into moving over to Monavie I estimate that was a loss of around $25,000/month to Amway. Your story is starting to become more common in the past couple of years where its a woman ambot instead of the more traditional male ambot.You have the good sense to see a "business opportunity" where less than a fraction of 1% of the participants make money (read the small print on Amway's literature) is a system set up for failure.And sorry to say what you've suspected will happen - the assholes in her Amway upline will do everything they can to convince her to break up with you. Theres lots of different strategies N Commandeur. Often, the perception that Amway diamond is wealthy is based on the income they earned in the year they qualified first. Are you aware of what is going on in India right now with your supplier? . Wait till the assholes in his Amway upline find out he was hanging here instead of prospecting unless he's so fucked in the head he thinks this blog is a good place to find prospects! But he is a charismatic guy who is very convincing isn't he.Just think about it for a second. Not just buy them, but subscribe monthly for new tapes every month. The big reason it smells so much like a pyramid scheme is because, despite loopholes, that is what it is. I'm glad the people who work for us don't have that attitude. It's like this, 5 seagulls are on a dock and one decides to fly away, How many seagulls are left?5. Using Kellys technique of assuming no overlap in businesses and no international sponsoring, but with correct figures, Amway US Sales could theoretically support more than 530 Founders Diamonds. It's funny how some people go around not realizing that Anna's tone is actually intentional. . Ask your dad's friend to show you the ownership papers and his registration.If he's in Amway, he'll probably give you a lot of double-talk, and then pretend he didn't hear your questions. You probably would have better luck trying to sign up 5 seagulls to the Amway scam than you'd have signing up real people! Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. If you see hate then that is what Amway projects. We have 54 diamonds and up in north America and thousands globally. They're relentless. Anna, your blog ROCKS!!! The first sentence of this post says the same thing as the small print of the Amway literature,150k. Greed rules! I feel for the other unfortunate souls that got hooked into this scam. To some maybe but from what I've read, I'm not convinced it is. Where can you do that with a conventional job?? I could go through the entire business plan. Ambots have to lie otherwise they can't scam prospects into coming to an Amway meeting. the same guy thats trying to get me to join amway tells me that he buys lip gloss from amway for 10$ and resells it to people for 20$. Do you believe in yourself? It may only be shared or re-used under licence. Answer (1 of 9): Amway diamond income is made up of bonus and commissions paid by Amway and the income earned from BWW which produces Talks and organizes seminars. The secret to success in Amway is you have to be the most obnoxious fucking asshole around. I don't understand why getting new people to join is so much more important than just selling products. They figure once they get the sucker there and get them in front of their Amway cult leader they'll want to sign up so they can spend more time with that bastard. LOL! Diamonds look back and say look at all he people I fucked over to get rich. Hope you all have much success in life. Anna,Thank-you, this column is wicked. You never tell an Amway Ambot your dreams because they'll use it as a weapon against you at a later date like when you're planning to quit. Anyway, yeah so he gave me a lip gloss sample to show to girls to try to get them to purchase lip gloss. They wouldn't have sunk into poverty, though, because they'd wisely invested their income and (at l east while we were distributors) they didn't live a flashy lifestyle. They are greedy, wealth-based and sneer at the poor instead of helping them (though ironically Ambots tend to be poor themselves unless they have a great real J.O.B. The cast of Uchu Sentai Kyuranger made their first public appearance at this year's LIVE&SHOW anniversary concert celebrating Kamen Rider and Super Sentai. They joined Amway in 1973 and went Diamond in 1979. And don't get me started on those multiple weekly meetings where you hear the exact same thing you heard at the meeting before and the one before that and so on..And the abuse you took after you quit is the same abuse everyone else gets too. Sure, nice mark-up for the lipgloss. What would be nice to know is, who are they? People have enough of the Amway bullshit. The point of this blog is to show that Amway is NOT a solution, it's a money-losing cult that MAKES problems for people, not solve them. It makes Amway Ambots very angry that its so high on the search engines when they're probably looking to find out how much an Amway Diamond makes. Theo is either full of crap or Theo has a great deal of debt. He goes to a lot of the conferences and weekly meetings and is actually doing pretty well which he thinks is just luck. 2 / Brandon Odom pt. My parents were Amway folks back in the late 80s and throughout the 90s, even into the early 2000s. How do you structure your work ? No? But if that's what you coasted on them holy balls, i understand your anger. And yes when you're in Amway you are only supposed to socialize with other people in Amway because the rest of the world who aren't in Amway are losers and dream stealers and must be avoided according to the assholes in your Amway upline that is. Anonymous - Amway ambots are brainwashed not to believe anything that doesn't come from the lying mouth of an Amway cult leader. Well they'd need to. The average diamond earns about $150,000, according to Amway. Yup that pretty much sums up Amway ambots! Hell Ive never even had a call from a bill collector. . Hey thanks! Sorry it doesn't meet your high standards. Now that might be a ripoff but that part of it at least isn't necessarily scamming (20$ is the retail price of the lip gloss and he buys it discounted due to being part of Amway and paying fees for that).. now.. after all of that.. he still is begging me to join Amway.. there is something I am not being told here. And if I were you I wouldn't go around mentioning you know Amway losers because people are going to think you're a fucking Amway loser too. That goes with any type of business. Amway people only hate people who are negative. They invited me to a "marketing" conference, and told me some very successful "entrepreneurs" would be speaking. 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