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and in that respect the S5 2020 is definitely the better bike than the Uranium Nuclear, because it LOOKS faster, Cmon Eric Im sure youve got enough time on your hands to produce a fastest bike/wheelset for every route on zwift? I know it was the Venge for the longest time, then I thought I saw that the Scott passed it shortly after it was released. Keep riding youll get them soon enough! Hi Eric, Released as part of Zwifts Fuego Flats desert expansion, this oddly-named route isnt an out and back at all, but rather two loops connected in a figure 8-style course. What about Yorkshire/Harrogate UCI (as the one you ride today in TdZ)? Does it still have the bug? Some of those all-arounders are included in this list but ranked lower because the list is sorted strictly by aero performance. The which bike frame or wheelset is fastest question isnt as easy to answer as you might think. What I do not well understand is that any bike on the list among top 30-level from top 15-level should be among first on you list of best bikes under level 15. Smash your goals and compete with others around the world. I have the Venge S Works, Felt AR, Madone and System Six Frames for Aero Dont have enough Drops? ), Want to keep it simple? Both climbs and descending on the alpes. so, much sooner than lvl 29, surely. In Real Life, a lighter bike is better on the flat in a group because aero advantage is less relevant and the shifts in speed to hold position in the group is helped by faster acceleration which is better on a lighter bike. You get 20XP per km, and 30XP per mile. Each piece of equipment has unique weight and aerodynamic (CdA) values, making them perform in ways that mirror outdoor physics. Are you guys taking a look at the climbers as well (like the Canyon Ultimate CFR)? An 85kg rider on a road bike trying to keep up with a 65kg rider on a gravel bike up the Sgurr's gravel climb at 40kph will need to put out 100W more just to overcome rolling resistance. The big news in the build-up to the event was Lionel Sanders racing in his home country. Otherwise, make a rubber band meetup, then you can ride at the pace you want and youll stay together anyway. Your best Zwift setup, more than ever, depends on your specific situation. If you are running out of gears on Zwift's steeper climbs, try reducing your trainer difficulty. Swift Zwift Tip: The New Fastest Bike on the DIRT! The Tron is an always aero position on bike, it doesnt gain much in draft and cant climb well. Beginning in Fuego Flats, we make our way across the desert then descend through the redwoods down to Ocean Boulevard. Zwift will be updating it, probably in the next minor update well release test results after that. This should be a popular race route given its length and mostly-flat profile punctuated by two distinct climb sections. The Chris Pritchard Show 2 years ago NEW TO ZWIFT? Length: 39.8 km (24.7 miles)Elevation: 303 m (994)Lead-In: 2.4 km (1.5 miles)Map: Watopia. Thanks. This bike rarely gets mentioned so was just thinking is it that bad. . See https://zwiftinsider.com/charts-frames/. See how you can support Zwift Insider! As stated above, the next-fastest combination (Cervelo S5 2020 with Zipp 808s) is 6.5 seconds slower than the Tron bike in our ~50 minute test. It's harder than real racing. For example, the Tron bike is a very strong (top) all rounder. New season starts with an unclear sprinting hierarchy,Sam Bennett, Biniam Girmay, Dylan Groenewgen, Fabio Jakobsen and Arnaud De Lie have all won, and Mark Cavendish hasn't even kicked off his year yet Yup, climbing from the get go is key to getting the Tron before lvl 30. If you are interested, feel free to check it out: https://pursuitcyclingforkids.com/2021/08/24/buffalo-bike-vs-cannondale-evo-alpe-test/. This community-driven site is maintained by Eric Schlange and a team of Zwift enthusiasts. If you include the lead-in, the gravel percentage actually increases to ~55% of the course. Im bummed to lose the Aeroad as it was an amazing frame with a low barrier to entry. The sprint times between 454 on these bikes are comparable to the Tron. Zwift is virtual training for running and cycling. Support. That's ~3.2km of gravel, which means more than half the route is gravel. According to this zwiftinsider article, changing bikes can be achieved in 12-15s so the above strategy requires 3 chnages = 36-45s time lost changing frame & wheels which reduces the advantage to 8-17s. Terms of Use/DMCA Copyright Policy We dont always revise posts when performance rankings change, but we do keep current, master versions of our speed test results which are always available. I am a big fan of the Tron on rolling routesI worked hard to earn it, so I am willing to give up a second or two to ride it. Out and Back Again I had as 39.8Km 303M and now Zwift support shows it (with lead-in) as 42.1Km and 334M. Have you done that kind of test? Set Zwift to metric. Im also interested in this topic. Out and Back Again gives the rider over a 1,000 feet of elevation climbing as well as over 26 miles of riding. Numbness in the seat and groin area is caused by pressure on the pudendal nerves and well as the arteries that feed blood there. Well done all. What about best equipment related to the race parcours? Tron isnt in my garage yet. Flat and rolling covers mostroutes on Zwift, with the exception of anything including major climbs like Alpe du Zwift, the Epic KOM, orInnsbrucks KOM. It turns in the same flat test time as the Cervelo S5 and Trek Madone, but beats both of those frames handily when it comes to climbing so weve ranked it at #5 here. This article didnt help me at all since Im only Level 15, but the article from 2019 regarding bikes for climbing gave me some good options. Thank you for the update. Heres how to do that >, Want to dig deeper? Id say 90-95% of routes, its pretty clear what they are. Yup. The action saw a mass start 200m pool swim, before a 4km Zwift bike leg and a 1km run on an elliptical running machine. Reshuffled the deck based on our latest speed tests. This is Contribute a post, shop through us, make a donation, advertise on this site. 888,042 Attempts By 305,615 People. Twoshihtzu (Ward) December 22, 2020, 4:54am #6. to me, it appears the Chapter2 TOA is better than the Tron, from your scatter plots. The Grail (along with the Cervlo Aspero. Im riding the Venge. These two frames turn in identical times in our flat and climbing tests, so they are ranked together here. One question every rider should ask as they head into a Zwift race is: which frameset is should I use on this route? Your choice of bike frame influences your Zwift speed significantly. All of those climbs are steep and/or long enough to make a lighter bike worth the aero penalty. Differences would be in the millisecond range but might be much more relevant as these are where races and won and lost. As far as I understand tron bike Is faster than anyother bike used without the 858/super9. The best climbing frame is the best regardless of your weight. 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So I am still slumming it with the Canyon Speedmax CF SLX Disc, which Zwift Insider claims as the fastest TT frame, and Zipp 808/Super9 wheels, the 2nd fastest wheelset. Like the Big Loop course. Im just about to get one. Eric, frame wheelset combo would you recommend for everyday riding. Fastest Wheelsets Total time savings of fastest frame and wheelset over stock Zwift setup (Zwift Carbon frame and 32mm wheels): 19+59.5=78.5 seconds Times above based on our flat speed tests, done with a solo 75kg rider at 300 watts over two laps of Watopia's very flat Tempus Fugit route. Since those wheelsets are level-locked at 35+, many Zwifters will not have access to them. Support. . I watched as hundreds of riders struggled to hang on to the. So it actually takes longer to go from 20 to 30 than from 0 to 20, especially if you do a lot of badge hunting early on. Heres the list of top climbing frames on Zwift >, How the Race Was Lost: the Breakaway that Stayed Away, The Power Costs of Different Wheels and Surfaces in Zwift, Chasing Cancellara Stage 2 Time Trials: March 3-5, Zwift Course Calendar Current Guest World Schedule. Avg Grade 0.0%. But, if all I did for the next 9 rides were Road to Sky, I would get the Tron (and hopefully the Meilenstein wheelset) and be lvl 29. This is the information that is easy to digest and allieviates drop purchase remorse. Bump that trainer difficulty up past the default setting of 50%! Triathlon bikes are designed for speed and are commonly used in triathlons. @Eric Schlange do you think this still goes for something super close in performance, say the Cervelo v Venge S Works, although the Cervelo is 1s faster on the flat in your tests it gives away 3s on the climb time, is this not enough to equalise the performance of these fees over a more rolling course? Eric, I always find these so helpful, but have one quick question. ZIPP 202, 404, 454, 808 Got questions or comments? When creating a meetup and making it a no drop ride. - YouTube 0:00 / 3:13 #zwift #cycling #virtualcycling Swift Zwift Tip: The New Fastest Bike on the DIRT! I suppose level accumulation will slow down due to a) fewer xp per level required in the low levels b) reduction in xp accumulation when there are no more routes to complete. Times above based on our flat speed tests, done with a solo 75kg rider at 300 watts over two laps of Watopias very flat Tempus Fugit route. Given there are so many group races with drafting plays a big part, have you thought about a test to see which frame/wheel combo is fastest when the draft is taken into account? After 60 km i gave up. 887,500 Drops to purchase, must be Level 20+. The TOA turns in the same flat test time as the Dogma F, but is 4 seconds slower up the Alpe, so we ranked it lower. @eric Schlange: Zwift Insider is an Amazon Page. This may be a silly question but at what point do you consider a course a climb rather than a flat or rolling course? I'm not sure which combos are available at your level. 19,132 views Oct 16, 2019 . Shop. Thats a slim margin, and one youre not likely to notice in the craziness of the Zwift peloton. Yes I know its negligible, yet in a sport where every gram and second counts. You need to pass through the desert arch. So the Tron tops our list here because its the fastest frame+wheel combo available at level 30 and below. Differences between options will also be magnified or minimized by your own power levels, drafting abilities, and more. Try for free. The harder you pedal, the faster you go. Testing the new frames now. i remember the chart from ur website shows Pinarello Dogma F is faster tham vange Dis now, oh, The riders will be different in weight, height & motivation..pointless race! The Specialized Venge (which appears to be the original Venge ViAS) is a very slippery frame, and outclimbs the Cannondale SystemSix (just barely), so we give it the edge here. Flat and rolling covers mostroutes on Zwift, with the exception of anything including major climbs like Alpe du Zwift, the Epic KOM, orInnsbrucks KOM. Contribute a post, shop through us, make a donation, advertise on this site. Or Zwift aero+dtswiss arc1100 combo.. It also climbs just a few seconds faster than the Felt AR and Cervelo S5 in our Alpe tests, so it definitely deserves the #1 slot., A bit of edditing required for the number 2 slot. Would love your thoughts, please comment. This list just takes aero into account. *shrug*. I actually had an extra 50k feet climbed outside of the challenge too (did tour of Cali first) so I could have gotten it even earlier without too much fuss. But its certainly a bike worth unlocking. This site contains affiliate links to Amazon, Wahoo, and other brands. heres a list for the best climbing setups for the alpe https://zwiftinsider.com/fastest-bike-alpe/, theres also routes like the cobbled climbs course on the richmond course that dont have a big climb but they have those two short and steep climbs that would make it so you should probsbly use a mixed set up, theres also routes like the cobbled climbs course on the richmond course that dont have a big climb but they have those two short and steep climbs that would make it so you should probably use a mixed set up. Weve done a lot of those tests already, in years past. I didnt start the quest until I had already logged 8,000m of climbing. Until you can access the 858/Super9 wheels arent all other frame/wheel combos will be slower than tron? See Speed Tests: Tron Bike vs Top Performers (Scatter Plot) >. alpe du zwift or Innsbruck etc.) You want to be fast on the flats and still climb well. Benefits & Considerations; Europe; USA; Health. And I am at Level 35 Any ideas?? With structured workouts and social group rides. So should be the same on Zwift So fastest race bikes may not be the aero ones that do well on constant-effort, non-group rides, Disagree as on flat weight be it slow to get going totally gets more momentum but for once going flats and weight is where a rock can fly , In Zwift times I raced with a lighter bike and lightweight wheels for the few climbs that were in the loop and I had to pedal much harder. Route Basics Length: 39.8 km (24.7 miles) Specialized Venge S-Works: 798,800 Drops to purchase, must be Level 33+Felt AR: 639,000 Drops to purchase, must be Level 34+. Todays 1.16.1 update changed the Aero and Weight of some bikes and a set of wheels. Off-road bikes are available in the Zwift Drop Shop. as in reality most routes and such a mixture of up/down/flat, it would give a more realistic ranking of frames and wheels, I think its pretty easy to just figure that stuff out yourself, for instance if its a mixed route Ill either go with the canyon aeroad with the dt swiss arc 62s, or if there is more climbing the melinsteins, Thank you for your testing, Eric! Would you update this post with the latest Cervelo S5 2020 bug fix? I also thought perhaps at some pointRead more , Hi, As I was reading it on the mobile phone, my wife approached and asked what was happening. The problem for these bikes is they generally require slightly more watts than Tron with the fast aero tires is you need to be a complete riderRead more . Contribute a post, shop through us, make a donation, advertise on this site. Yeah, I got the better discs being level 46 now but you know I really like the tron bike and I worked hard to get it so I using it as I am not going to be leading any packs anyway so I should be enjoying my bike of choice oddly to me anyway at 104kg the TRON feels faster than my sworks with the ARC discs should not be the case but SWORKS Verge feels slower. https://zwiftinsider.com/fastest-bike-alpe/, https://zwiftinsider.com/points-levels-unlocks/, https://zwiftinsider.com/speed-tests-feb-22/, The Power Costs of Different Wheels and Surfaces in Zwift, Chasing Cancellara Stage 2 Time Trials: March 3-5, Zwift Course Calendar Current Guest World Schedule, Sep 24, 2021: made various small changes thanks to. How is that possible for an article that was just published? Regarding the Uranium Nuclear. We dont always revise posts when performance rankings change, but we do keep current, master versions of our speed test results which are always available. What I miss are the bike recommendations that earlier were part of the detailled descriptions. Both from starting at zero; and also when alternating 180W to 220W continuously. Worsening of pandemic in Madrid? She has been trying to guess what was making me so focused Imagine her face when I told her I was reading an article comparing the speed of virtual Zwift wheels and frames . Terms of Use/DMCA Copyright Policy Removed old Canyon Aeroad from the last slot. AndZwifts Drop Shop gives us access to a pile of frames: 100+ if you include the Tron, TT, Gravel, and mountain bikes! x, 177,600 Drops to purchase, must be Level 13+. The Tron bike isnt listed above because it is not unlocked on any particular level. I know it might not be that sensible, but I just cant bring myself to use disc wheels on anything other than a TT bike. The Tron is much faster than anything else on the list, which makes bike choice for Zwifters level 30 and below easy. It turns in a performance on par with our top 3 picks on the flat test, but is a few seconds back on the Alpe. Got a mostly-flat race route with a key climb? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Have you ever experimented with rider weight to see if it makes any difference to the bike and wheelset performance?.as a 110kg rider i need all the help i can get going up them hills! Also added the Pinarello Dogma F and Chapter2 TOA, and removed the Cannondale SystemSix and Specialized Venge since they are the slowest on the list and weve got to keep the list short. Zwift Insider makes a small commission on purchases made from these links, so please shop through them to support our efforts. what is about the factor one? These results may change over time, and a bikes performance relative to others may also change. Such useful data on your site Eric! Just 1-2.5 seconds behind the top aero frames in a ~50 minute test, this frame beats every bike on this list when the road gets steep. Events. Not only does it preform awesomely, but aesthetics will give you a few more placebo watts . Sometimes Ill choose a slower bike, if the group ride is a slower/fun one just for the fun of it. If you know of a faster method please share in the comments!Find out how to change bikes fast in Zwift to minimize time loss during timed events such as Fond. These results may change over time, and a bikes performance relative to others may also change. Everything you said is exactly right, but even with the tiniest of margins, competitive people inherently like to know the differences and will base their equipment decisions on the data. Why is it so hard just to publish the route, the miles, and get it done Zwift? Is any of them a must buy ? Would these frame recommandations be equally good for group rides and workouts or do you have a list of the best all rounders? Once youve completed this climb and descended down to sea level youll hang a right onto Ocean Boulevard then a quick left toward the finish line at Fuego Flats. See our speed test charts for a complete list. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. I would hate to waste a bunch of drops on a frame that will be rendered slower if an update/fix is made shortly thereafter. Jun 6, 2019: added the new Felt AR as #4. Play is in our DNA and we know fun fuels results. Would love your thoughts, please comment. Distance 39.87km. Rolling, climbing and flats. First of all, thank you for your amazing and so useful works. At that point I would have 16 AdZ climbs and only 9 more for the masochist badge. After the Sram Red bug was fixed is the Cervelo S5 2020 the fastest frame again? (takes time though). It offers good ride feel, high accuracy and is very quiet. If you want to be really efficient, as soon as Alpe Du Zwift (Road to Sky) is available, ride that repeatedly until you unlock the Tron bike (about 48 times) the use the Tron bike to ride new routes (sometimes several per session) to get the 'first completion' bonuses. But that does not seems to be the case. Hopefully this helps you select a bike for your next race, no matter your Zwift level. We partly run these at 4w/kg just because its faster that way! Changed Felt AR and Cervelo S5 to be tied for 3rd/4th based on current tests. What About Climbing? Thanks. Broc Pearson - The future of Desmosport Ducati. Oh yeah, the other thing - CHECK THE LEAD-IN ON ROUTES!! Considering their low level requirement, this is a great wheelset for beginners to pick up! With the release of in game Route Badge Achievements we decided to model every available route. Would love your thoughts, please comment. I picked up the aeroad 2021 before reaching level 20, doesnt look like the Trek Madone justifies spendingRead more . 25 Feb 2023. Still a speedy beast, though. 1- Can you please explain how to do the + disc combo on a Cervelo S5? Hi Eric, bit of a curve ball here have you ever thought of doing a story on the slowest bikes on Zwift? We've modeled the Dust in the Wind route using the typical standard bike characteristics from Zwift along with rolling resistance data supplied by ( Zwift Insider ). Tarmac Pro + Meilensteins, yes. The ISUZU IRONMAN African Championship takes place on Sunday March 5 2023, with the 3.8km swim kicking things off at Hobie Beach, over a single loop course. Prevention; Treatment; . The sawtoothed Zipp 454s turn in a solid second-place performance behind the 808s on flat/rolling routes, but they also climb much better than the 808s, so you might pick them up if you want a slightly lighter rig for mixed courses. Eric runs Zwift Insider in his spare time when he isn't on the bike or managing various business interests. Ive done this route a few times going over 40k each time. When I bought it, it was 23 and one star better in weight. // Out and Back Again - YouTube Premieres in 17 minutes June 16 at 1:30 PM DESTROYED by Zwift Masters! Hi. 1. Privacy Policy, How to Race on Zwift (Setup, Strategy, and More). Reboot your device. Try free for 14 days. Thks!! SystemSix: 497,000 Drops to purchase, must be Level 27+, Cannondales aero offering doesnt disappoint, turning in solid fast lap times on flat/rolling routes. That corresponds to 0410 in the UK, 0510 CET and 2310 Eastern (late Saturday . Should the Uranium Nuclear be on this list? Do you have any concrete evidence that the Tron doesnt draft well? Start on road to sky, do a u turn, and go up the epic KOM route. Keiser M3i. That is indeed the lightest setup in the game, and besides for the wheels which must be won, it is available at level 11. We hope you found this post useful. Its completely silly, but the mental aspect counts for a lot and if you THINK youre faster with something, it may actually make you faster! See the frame charts, wheel charts, and Tron vs Top Performers for current performance data. Saving for the dogma F and a fast non disc wheel set. He lives in Northern California with his beautiful wife, two kids and dog. List of the top 5 fastest road bikes, which are acquirable by achievement in Zwift Hanging a left at the Jarvis Tree, we climb our way up the false flat to the Italian Villas, then twist through The Esses and turn left toward the volcano. Short answer: it would be closer to 9.5 seconds. Road bikes are the most common type of bike used on Zwift. Thats a slim margin, and one youre not likely to notice in the craziness of the Zwift peloton. 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